Since the other thread has 6 pages already I thought it'd be good to have a separate thread talking about the contents of the book.
Just pulled it out of the mailbox and I've got to go to work. First thing I saw was awesome, though:Spoiler: show
I skipped right to the pictures, though. I'm a child. ::2
I just finished chapter 8.Spoiler: show
I cannot suggest the audiobook enough. Never had one before, but it's a must. You'll hear every crack in her voice, tear ad lump in her throat before a "new take." I never expected to be quite this moved or emotional about it all.Oh, I can tell right now that's gonna hit me right in the chest when I hear it. I didn't get the download though, I have it coming on (multiple, evidently) CDs.
:grandma:I cannot suggest the audiobook enough. Never had one before, but it's a must. You'll hear every crack in her voice, tear ad lump in her throat before a "new take." I never expected to be quite this moved or emotional about it all.Oh, I can tell right now that's gonna hit me right in the chest when I hear it. I didn't get the download though, I have it coming on (multiple, evidently) CDs.
:grandpa:
Ah, you guys are making this sound sooooo good ... I'm stoked! :fun:My impression of the first few chapters is, much better. I can kind of see the arc of where the story's going, while CDTD was (intentionally) sort of scattershot. Tons of details I never knew, too! Like:
How would you say this book compares to Chasing Down the Dawn - as good, better or worse?
Seriously considering buying the audio as well though. Then I can have Jewel read to me whenever I want. :wub:
EDA Confession: I've never read CDTD :wtf: :blush: :blush: :oops:
Tons of details I never knew, too! Like:Spoiler: show
I have to say, I never thought that I would like an audio book. First one ever and I can't believe how much it adds to the book. I guess, if you have a "thing" for Jewel's voice in song, hearing her tell her story invests you in it all the more. I have to admit, I was shocked at how much it drew me in. It is what she wanted. It's visceral.I love her speaking voice as much as her singing voice, so this is right in my wheelhouse.
Am I the only one distracted by Jewel's reading voice. There is something odd about it and I don't really mean that in a negative way. Does that have something to do with her dyslexia? I ask as like a serious question? Does anyone else know what I mean?
I have to say, I never thought that I would like an audio book. First one ever and I can't believe how much it adds to the book. I guess, if you have a "thing" for Jewel's voice in song, hearing her tell her story invests you in it all the more. I have to admit, I was shocked at how much it drew me in. It is what she wanted. It's visceral.I love her speaking voice as much as her singing voice, so this is right in my wheelhouse.
I concur. This is up my alley too and why I never minded some of the music a lot of people don't like. I can listen to her sing or read anything and be transported. It's kinda ephemeral. I'm gonna stop here, because I am the new age fruit cake. :blush:
Yo! I'm back. How are you? :flower:
I had given up on Jewel, but some months ago, after chatting with Emilie (who else?!) I decided to give her new album a chance. And I was glad: I love it.
Then I got her book on my Kindle - I read half of it and I'm really enjoying it. It's like the adult version of CDTD, where things are finally explained.
Yo! I'm back. How are you? :flower:
I had given up on Jewel, but some months ago, after chatting with Emilie (who else?!) I decided to give her new album a chance. And I was glad: I love it.
Then I got her book on my Kindle - I read half of it and I'm really enjoying it. It's like the adult version of CDTD, where things are finally explained.
:book:
Done. WOW.
I can't say I didn't see the turn the book was going to take, but hot damn, Miss Jewel has some class. I give her a lot of credit.
I give the book an 8/10 and the audio book a 10/10.
:book:
Done. WOW.
I can't say I didn't see the turn the book was going to take, but hot damn, Miss Jewel has some class. I give her a lot of credit.
I give the book an 8/10 and the audio book a 10/10.
Where did you get the audio book, I was waiting for it from the jeweljk store, but it still not listed there. :boycomp: :help:
Between being a slow ass reader and hardly getting any time to myself, it's gonna take me forever to read this. Like it so far though.
By the time I finish, she'll release her retirement book... Always Broken: Hips Are Only Half the Story
FINALLY GOT MY BOOK! :woot:
Reading like a fiend now..... lol :book: :book: :book:
Wow. Some of this stuff is blowing me away. Poor Jewel. :(
By the time I finish, she'll release her retirement book... Always Broken: Hips Are Only Half the Story
Oh! The pictures are the end of the ebook. ;)
FINALLY GOT MY BOOK! :woot:
Reading like a fiend now..... lol :book: :book: :book:
Wow. Some of this stuff is blowing me away. Poor Jewel. :(
Between being a slow ass reader and hardly getting any time to myself, it's gonna take me forever to read this. Like it so far though.
By the time I finish, she'll release her retirement book... Always Broken: Hips Are Only Half the Story
Accoording the USPS site my parcel is delivered as well...but..no parcel here, not even a note.
I tried to email USPS, but I have to fill in my address...no problem you think...I don't have an american adress, and from that point on I can't get any further.
So I decided to mail the Jewel Store...since we're such good friends I hope they can see what's happened.
FINALLY GOT MY BOOK! :woot::thomdance:
Wow. Some of this stuff is blowing me away. Poor Jewel. :(Some of that early stuff was hard to read, but fascinating.
Between being a slow ass reader and hardly getting any time to myself, it's gonna take me forever to read this.That's exactly where I was a couple days ago, but I found some time yesterday and hammered my way through the second half. Gotta admit though, my eyes kind of glazed over and I skimmed through some of the self-help stuff at the end. Just the facts for me.
Anyway...
In the book, (maybe I should spoiler this)Spoiler: show
The result is very cryptic.
Hehe. I guess placing a quote inside a spoiler broke the system. Changed it.
That happened a few places. That's why you hire and editor.
Outlaws!
The way my mind works is so many light-years away from the way Jewel's does, I can't even comprehend some of her concepts.
I skimmed the self-help stuff, too, so we're bad fans together. I imagine we'll get plenty of it when the jewelneverbroken.com site gets launched.
You lied.
The lights bright up the Christmas Tree,
Oh goody, it's Christmas Eve
I got my baby, got his family and friends
Draw another year to an end
Ribbons gold and blue
Do not deliver you
Presents pretty and bright
Don't fill this empty space tonight
Oh, if my heart were made of gold
If my heart were made of gold
Then maybe, you'd find something
To love about me
The weather is unseasonably warm
Everybody's wishing for a Texas snowstorm
Don't peek in the stocking
Don't let my mind drift
There is a missing gift
Ribbons gold and blue
Do not deliver you
Presents pretty and bright
Don't fill this empty space tonight
Oh, if my heart were made of gold
If my heart were made of gold
Then maybe, you'd find something
To love about me
You only wanted to see the gold star
At the top of the tree
Oh, I wished I may,
I wished my whole life
To shine as bright
Bright enough for you to see
The gold, oh, the gold,
Oh, the gold, soft, shining gold
You only wanted gold
I was never the kind that you could hold
Oh, why can't you see the treasure
Inside of me
I don't know when I thought it could be about Nedra, but I had a idea that it might be even though it didn't seem to make as much sense. I knew it wasn't Ty just because of the "got my baby, got his family and friends" line. Reading the lyrics now, though, it's even more obvious than what GAIW is.
Nedra is such a $piritual person.
I'm a little surprised that the Nedra story wasn't picked up by the magazines. Maybe there's too much stuff there to fit into a nice tidy tabloid headline.
Also: In chapter 22, in the section that goes from meeting Kevyn Aucoin through the MTV Video Awards to the Tupac revelation, man, I felt her terror on the red carpet. I don't know if that's due to good writing or just the way I felt at the time, but it hit me.
...
I wasn't aware of the way (or when) she met Virginia either. That was pretty cool.
Remember that weird video that was 10 minutes of her staring at the camera? Creep factor 10.
Remember that weird video that was 10 minutes of her staring at the camera? Creep factor 10.
Yes! Very creepy indeed... :(
That gas-lighting crap is no joke, too! It's so common, too. Thank the stars she had a reasonable psychiatrist and not a money-grubbing bored person for a therapist.
But, yeah, Nedra is a fu...freaking joke and I wish all the emotional pain she's inflicted on others comes back around x3. We should have known she was legit loony toons. Remember that weird video that was 10 minutes of her staring at the camera? Creep factor 10.
i don't know - I can't find it anymore.
Trust me, it was weird. It was a webcam video. I saw it years ago. Fruit Loops.
I swear she had a huge youtube account, too, but now there are only two videos, so that explains why I can't find it!
Also: In chapter 22, in the section that goes from meeting Kevyn Aucoin through the MTV Video Awards to the Tupac revelation, man, I felt her terror on the red carpet. I don't know if that's due to good writing or just the way I felt at the time, but it hit me.
...
I wasn't aware of the way (or when) she met Virginia either. That was pretty cool.
That was fantastic, the way she kept hitting the lock button. Aucoin made some killer product and his memory lives on through them.
Nedra is a sociopath, without a doubt. The way Jewel described the bit re: the vacation home? How fast she switched when backed to the wall? She broke for just a moment.
I've dealt with at least one sociopath and even with a good childhood, they are so smooth, so practiced and calculating, you lose yourself to some degree. There's a part of your mind that holds the image of that robot from the old Lost In Space series (Danger Will Robinson!!) while another part tells you that you are being ridiculous. It's similar to why even after Ted Bundy's girlfriend found the plaster of paris in their bedroom closet, as well as the fake slings, her mind wouldn't let her believe it was 'her Ted'. The rational part of her called her girlfriend, who she knew would turn him in, while at the same time sitting there in complete denial.
An acquaintance of mine, who's husband was sociopathic, literally ended up checking herself into a psychiatric hospital at the suggestion of her 'concerned' husband, who had been continually gas lighting her. When she did, he took all the money, sent the daughter to a school for troubled kids (she was a teen and had figured her father out) and got full custody of the son. He went from concerned to cold instantly. The psychiatrist at the center figured it out fast, since there was nothing wrong with her.
Dealing with people like this is just mind-altering.
Also: In chapter 22, in the section that goes from meeting Kevyn Aucoin through the MTV Video Awards to the Tupac revelation, man, I felt her terror on the red carpet. I don't know if that's due to good writing or just the way I felt at the time, but it hit me.
...
I wasn't aware of the way (or when) she met Virginia either. That was pretty cool.
That was fantastic, the way she kept hitting the lock button. Aucoin made some killer product and his memory lives on through them.
Nedra is a sociopath, without a doubt. The way Jewel described the bit re: the vacation home? How fast she switched when backed to the wall? She broke for just a moment.
I've dealt with at least one sociopath and even with a good childhood, they are so smooth, so practiced and calculating, you lose yourself to some degree. There's a part of your mind that holds the image of that robot from the old Lost In Space series (Danger Will Robinson!!) while another part tells you that you are being ridiculous. It's similar to why even after Ted Bundy's girlfriend found the plaster of paris in their bedroom closet, as well as the fake slings, her mind wouldn't let her believe it was 'her Ted'. The rational part of her called her girlfriend, who she knew would turn him in, while at the same time sitting there in complete denial.
An acquaintance of mine, who's husband was sociopathic, literally ended up checking herself into a psychiatric hospital at the suggestion of her 'concerned' husband, who had been continually gas lighting her. When she did, he took all the money, sent the daughter to a school for troubled kids (she was a teen and had figured her father out) and got full custody of the son. He went from concerned to cold instantly. The psychiatrist at the center figured it out fast, since there was nothing wrong with her.
Dealing with people like this is just mind-altering.
:that:
It's scary and when it's a family member; heartbreaking. It's almost like trying to love an alcoholic or an addict. They just never see past themselves, their life or their _____. It doesn't matter what you do or say. I think the lying is the worst.
I swear she had a huge youtube account, too, but now there are only two videos, so that explains why I can't find it!
Damage control. She pulled all the wacky vids she had up from her "lectures" and the weird staring one. You're right, there were a shitfuckton of videos up. It's all down since the book....or maybe, right before. Appearances. Wolf in sheep's clothing, false prophet....she sucks.
And I say that with, love, light and a believer in most things "new agey."
Reviewer on Amazon writes:
3.0 out of 5 stars"Reality TV" impession of circumstances and experiences
Bylinda in ohio Amazon Customeron September 27, 2015
Format: Kindle EditionVerified Purchase
Reading this book was a challenge. I hate to buy something and abandon it . I slogged through it hoping to find redeemming content. There is none. Just another episode of the current trend of tv reality shows Alaskan style. Look at me....look at me...... Just not believeable. I really wanted this book to be a great read. Just too many unrealistic happenings.......always some hero steps in to save the day. Even stories of possible stress related kleptomania were over the top. Jewel did not steal one bathing suit......she took four. Every instance was over the top. Sour grapes here? I don't want to complain just sharing my personal thoughts on my interpretation of this book.
And I write this:
Sharon D Hatfield 5 minutes ago
Be careful not to doubt validity just because it doesn't mirror your surroundings or the life you lived. Absolutely nothing in this book is a fairy tale unfortunately and there are no "heroes" stepping in. The hero here is Jewel herself...primarily because she has been able to overcome the negativity of doubters throughout her life. ....and do so absolutely alone. Many can relate to all of her experiences... there are people who go through these circumstances in real life and it isn't played out on a camera. This book was therapy for herself above everything else. And next the book is for those of us who do relate and need assistance articulating what we have spent a lifetime trying to capture in written word. There is comfort in familiarity and in knowing what you have gone through isn't isolated. Perhaps a fictional novel would better suit the reading interests of those who want to escape the raw ugly reality of some people's lives.
I swear she had a huge youtube account, too, but now there are only two videos, so that explains why I can't find it!
Damage control. She pulled all the wacky vids she had up from her "lectures" and the weird staring one. You're right, there were a shitfuckton of videos up. It's all down since the book....or maybe, right before. Appearances. Wolf in sheep's clothing, false prophet....she sucks.
And I say that with, love, light and a believer in most things "new agey."
All of those creepy videos got pulled sometime last week the best I can tell. About two weeks ago I went online and they were all there..and I was guilty of "cyberbully comments" on Nedra's videos. I guess others must have joined in and she took them down. The only one left is something she didn't post but someone else posted of a live interview. Look at the comments on that one....EDAs 'hatin' on mommy dearest on that one too.
So, Nedra bat not have been all Jewel needed in a mother, but I can't condone cyber bullying. I feel like it's the antithesis of EDA-dom. Granted I haven't even gotten 100 pages into the book, but still...Jewel has moved on, there's no need for us to bad mouth her further. ☺I swear she had a huge youtube account, too, but now there are only two videos, so that explains why I can't find it!
Damage control. She pulled all the wacky vids she had up from her "lectures" and the weird staring one. You're right, there were a shitfuckton of videos up. It's all down since the book....or maybe, right before. Appearances. Wolf in sheep's clothing, false prophet....she sucks.
And I say that with, love, light and a believer in most things "new agey."
All of those creepy videos got pulled sometime last week the best I can tell. About two weeks ago I went online and they were all there..and I was guilty of "cyberbully comments" on Nedra's videos. I guess others must have joined in and she took them down. The only one left is something she didn't post but someone else posted of a live interview. Look at the comments on that one....EDAs 'hatin' on mommy dearest on that one too.
3/5 for such a negative review...not bad. Way to fly the freak flag on your response! I've bolded what could essentially be a tagline for the book. I think you should tweet her with it and #NeverBroken and get a RT.Reviewer on Amazon writes:
3.0 out of 5 stars"Reality TV" impession of circumstances and experiences
Bylinda in ohio Amazon Customeron September 27, 2015
Format: Kindle EditionVerified Purchase
Reading this book was a challenge. I hate to buy something and abandon it . I slogged through it hoping to find redeemming content. There is none. Just another episode of the current trend of tv reality shows Alaskan style. Look at me....look at me...... Just not believeable. I really wanted this book to be a great read. Just too many unrealistic happenings.......always some hero steps in to save the day. Even stories of possible stress related kleptomania were over the top. Jewel did not steal one bathing suit......she took four. Every instance was over the top. Sour grapes here? I don't want to complain just sharing my personal thoughts on my interpretation of this book.
And I write this:
Sharon D Hatfield 5 minutes ago
Be careful not to doubt validity just because it doesn't mirror your surroundings or the life you lived. Absolutely nothing in this book is a fairy tale unfortunately and there are no "heroes" stepping in. The hero here is Jewel herself...primarily because she has been able to overcome the negativity of doubters throughout her life. ....and do so absolutely alone. Many can relate to all of her experiences... there are people who go through these circumstances in real life and it isn't played out on a camera. This book was therapy for herself above everything else. And next the book is for those of us who do relate and need assistance articulating what we have spent a lifetime trying to capture in written word. There is comfort in familiarity and in knowing what you have gone through isn't isolated. Perhaps a fictional novel would better suit the reading interests of those who want to escape the raw ugly reality of some people's lives.
I wouldn't respond further. Like the lady says - it's just her opinion.
I wouldn't respond further. Like the lady says - it's just her opinion.
I actually just replied with nothing but: "Thank you"
Well, hey there! I'm sort of back. The lady I'm dating loves to read, and I gave her a copy of Never Broken. She's stillHey Randy! Is this ladyfriend of yours wearing the Jewel t-shirt on the regular now? ;)readingdevouring it (Chapter 12) and it has just blown her away. I may have created a monster! We've watched videos and listened to PUtP too. She has suffered some losses in her life, and I forgot to warn her before The Shape of You came on. It broke her into little pieces. I'm kind of tearing up thinking about it now. But it's all good; she's loving this stuff.
I can't get onto the board from the laptop at her place, and can't figure out why just yet. Working on it...
Hehe..drunk boarding last night. bat = may. Don't know where that mini-rant came from. :oops:
Hi, Randy!! You've been greatly missed!
Spread that EDA Faith!!
Well, hey there! I'm sort of back. The lady I'm dating loves to read, and I gave her a copy of Never Broken. She's stillHey Randy! Is this ladyfriend of yours wearing the Jewel t-shirt on the regular now? ;)readingdevouring it (Chapter 12) and it has just blown her away. I may have created a monster! We've watched videos and listened to PUtP too. She has suffered some losses in her life, and I forgot to warn her before The Shape of You came on. It broke her into little pieces. I'm kind of tearing up thinking about it now. But it's all good; she's loving this stuff.
I can't get onto the board from the laptop at her place, and can't figure out why just yet. Working on it...Hehe..drunk boarding last night. bat = may. Don't know where that mini-rant came from. :oops:
Hehe.. I think its funny you log on to EDAs space when you are drunk... :thumbup:
Seemingly, as the resident new age fruit cake, I gotta say, this woman pisses me right the f--- off. :banghead:
I'm trying to read the book while listening to the Audible version before my free trial expires in a few days, and there's one little, big difference I noticed. When Jewel mentioned that when she was trying to move out at 15 to live in that little cabin and she noticed the money she saved up was missing, you got the idea that Nedra took it even though Jewel didn't outright say that she took it. Nothing was really said afterward. Fast forward to her second year at Interlochen and she says she gains weight and decides to form a group for those with eating disorders. In the audio version she says "I had heard about twelve-step programs from my mom when she had taken my rent money." In the book the sentence doesn't include "when she had taken my rent money." I'm guessing this was one of the things she had to edit out of the book which explains why she didn't want Howard to talk about it in their interview. I didn't understand why at the time because she actually said so in the audio book, you know? That small addition/subtraction makes a difference, though, because in the book she talks about forgiving her mom, but you wouldn't understand what she would be forgiving her mom for. It's a good little anecdote for what happens later in her career, though, which is probably why she kept it in. This is in chapter 13, page 114 - 115, by the way.
On another, somewhat similar note, I found it rather odd how Nedra seemed to move around so much. She even left Jewel, her underage daughter, who stayed in a house all by herself while she finished a school year. What parent would do that? Just leave their child to fend for themselves? Even if people were more self-reliant in Alaska it's still baffling to me. And Nedra leaves again in San Diego after they move into their cars together. How crappy, then, for her to only stick around when Jewel really hit it big. Ew.
That means you got the same version Stern had! :fun: No wonder it was the only copy they had!
Now I really think I should go back through it again...
Disclaimer: I used to hate it when people say this...but....
Man, views on that kind of stuff really changes when you grow up and/or have kids of your own!
I was reading some thread on the internet where all these teenagers were complaining about their parents and how they all wish they had more freedom and they hate their parents asking so many details about where they're going, what they're doing, who they'll be with and I'm like, "that's what parenting is, kiddo. If they didn't do that, they'd be terrible parents!" but you know what? When I was a teenager up through half of my 20s even, I'd have agreed with the teenagers! Now that I'm getting to be old as dirt, I'm on the parents' side! :lol:
That means you got the same version Stern had! :fun: No wonder it was the only copy they had!
Now I really think I should go back through it again...
Then it's the 9 cd version that Blackstone put out and Barnes and Noble carries.
Errr...oops. No. Different lady. :wWell, hey there! I'm sort of back. The lady I'm dating loves to read, and I gave her a copy of Never Broken. She's stillHey Randy! Is this ladyfriend of yours wearing the Jewel t-shirt on the regular now? ;)readingdevouring it (Chapter 12) and it has just blown her away. I may have created a monster! We've watched videos and listened to PUtP too. She has suffered some losses in her life, and I forgot to warn her before The Shape of You came on. It broke her into little pieces. I'm kind of tearing up thinking about it now. But it's all good; she's loving this stuff.
I can't get onto the board from the laptop at her place, and can't figure out why just yet. Working on it...
The latest chapter I listened to today was describing how the guy at the job wouldn't pay her because she'd turned him down the day before, and he then ignored her the next day. I was fully expecting that Nedra was going to march her back down there and demand she gets the money she rightfully earned, so was quite astounded (and frustrated) when she simply suggest they just live in their cars. Sheesh.
I have the impression that in CDTD things have been sweetened. But the idea of Nedra as the hero no, I think that was real at the time.
I also have the impression she is even worse than she appears in NB...
This book blew my mind and I need to read it 100 more times. Too busy with school to fullllllly indulge...... Can't wait for Christmas break! Soon!!
Ps- Nedra is bat shit crazy.
I skimmed the self-help stuff, too, so we're bad fans together. I imagine we'll get plenty of it when the jewelneverbroken.com site gets launched.
Take from the poll thread:The latest chapter I listened to today was describing how the guy at the job wouldn't pay her because she'd turned him down the day before, and he then ignored her the next day. I was fully expecting that Nedra was going to march her back down there and demand she gets the money she rightfully earned, so was quite astounded (and frustrated) when she simply suggest they just live in their cars. Sheesh.
You know, this is one part I found curious. In Chasing Down the Dawn she mentions how Nedra was furious and demanded the money from Jewel's boss, but in Never Broken it's completely glossed over to make it seem as though Nedra simply suggested to move into their cars together without a second thought about the money. So what's the truth? Both, I guess? I don't know. It's just kinda odd how the same story is written in different ways. Well, not really odd as just jarring. I was expecting at least a passing comment about how Nedra went to confront her boss, but nothing.
I'm not into self-help guru stuff. I have one self-help book I like - Don't Sweat The Small Stuff - and all others are poo.
Well, actually, How To Win Friends and Influence people is p useful. I like to go through that one real quick before business trips.
Is it worth reading CDTD now I've read the full autobio you think?
Is it worth reading CDTD now I've read the full autobio you think?
I thought it was p amusing reading the narrative change so dramatically. It's not that the details of the stories change so much as the tone. In one, Nedra's a knight in shining armor and in the other, she's a villain, so that's fairly compelling, but it's p redundant reading (skimming, lol) both if you're in it for the cold hard facts.
Is it worth reading CDTD now I've read the full autobio you think?
I thought it was p amusing reading the narrative change so dramatically. It's not that the details of the stories change so much as the tone. In one, Nedra's a knight in shining armor and in the other, she's a villain, so that's fairly compelling, but it's p redundant reading (skimming, lol) both if you're in it for the cold hard facts.
Cool, thanks. Thought that it may be a good source for more detailed accounts of stories from earlier in her career, but it sounds so different from NB that I'd probably end up getting quite confused (with my mind just merging both books into one messy grand narrative!)
:D
Is it worth reading CDTD now I've read the full autobio you think?
I thought it was p amusing reading the narrative change so dramatically. It's not that the details of the stories change so much as the tone. In one, Nedra's a knight in shining armor and in the other, she's a villain, so that's fairly compelling, but it's p redundant reading (skimming, lol) both if you're in it for the cold hard facts.
Cool, thanks. Thought that it may be a good source for more detailed accounts of stories from earlier in her career, but it sounds so different from NB that I'd probably end up getting quite confused (with my mind just merging both books into one messy grand narrative!)
:D
It's pretty impossible to confuse the two. CDTD, is an hour's read - at most.
I think I'm the only one that didn't mind the end of NB. The self-help stuff, is built off a lot of spiritual practices and I do get into the new-age, fruit cakey stuff. So, I guess I saw it as tame compared to a lot of other stuff out there on the market. It sure is interesting to hear how the general public feels about it, though.
I think I personally (and this opinion) get sad about it because the world is so busy fighting over religion and spirituality is so different. :shrug2: Probably just little pagan me.
I wasn't being accusatory. I'm sorry if I came across that way. I wasn't saying that anyone who didn't like the end of the book wasn't spiritual. I think everyone has their own path and I have no issue with whatever works as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. Me, yeah I'm lucky my feet hit the ground some days. But it doesn't make me any more spiritual than anyone else. My point was, I'm finding it interesting how people are reacting to the end of the book. That's all.
I wasn't being accusatory. I'm sorry if I came across that way. I wasn't saying that anyone who didn't like the end of the book wasn't spiritual. I think everyone has their own path and I have no issue with whatever works as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. Me, yeah I'm lucky my feet hit the ground some days. But it doesn't make me any more spiritual than anyone else. My point was, I'm finding it interesting how people are reacting to the end of the book. That's all.
No, not at all - sorry if my response made it seem like you were being accusatory (I wasn't implying so). We're definitely on the same page, I probably just did a poor job of communicating. Everyone goes home happy! :hug:
I am interested to see how some of the topics go down on the NB board.
I am interested to see how some of the topics go down on the NB board.
Yep, should make for an interesting read, for sure. Not entirely sure what to expect, but will be keeping a close eye on it. I'm with you on the coffee too! Made the mistake of ditching caffeine myself for a week recently, and was surprisingly lethargic (even by my standards). Tolerance seemed to revert though, so was pretty buzzed when I cracked on again!
I'm not into self-help guru stuff.
I'm not into self-help guru stuff.
The minute someone tells me I could turn off a light bulb with my brain, however....I'm outta there.....
:facepalm: :tongue2:
I'm still not sure I understand how she can have so much affection for Jacque after all the Zarathustra stuff. Didn't Jacque come into the picture because of her mother?
So, Nedra bat not have been all Jewel needed in a mother, but I can't condone cyber bullying. I feel like it's the antithesis of EDA-dom. Granted I haven't even gotten 100 pages into the book, but still...Jewel has moved on, there's no need for us to bad mouth her further. ☺
Good heavens, what book are you discussing?
it was such a total shock to be someone that followed her career and to have listened to interviews and read her writings and then to hear about how different things were from what she presented. Wow!
BTW, I don't think I can like Violet Eyes as much as I did, now.