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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2015, 09:12:02 AM »
Accoording the USPS site my parcel is delivered as well...but..no parcel here, not even a note.
I tried to email USPS, but I have to fill in my address...no problem you think...I don't have an american adress, and from that point on I can't get any further.

So I decided to mail the Jewel Store...since we're such good friends I hope they can see what's happened.
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2015, 11:29:41 AM »
Quote from: Donna Sue on September 23, 2015, 02:48:07 AM
FINALLY GOT MY BOOK!  :woot:

Reading like a fiend now..... lol   :book: :book: :book:

Wow. Some of this stuff is blowing me away. Poor Jewel.  :(

So happy to hear your book has arrived.  :woot:

We lose track of the fact that Canadians are treated like "Redheaded Cousins" or something.  :facepalm:

I grew up in Ohio and we often went across Lake Erie when fishing to the Canadian side, Pelee Island. Visited Windsor a few times from Detroit. Great country.  :hi5:
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2015, 11:33:03 AM »
Quote from: Garf on September 23, 2015, 06:49:05 AM
Between being a slow ass reader and hardly getting any time to myself, it's gonna take me forever to read this. Like it so far though.

By the time I finish, she'll release her retirement book... Always Broken: Hips Are Only Half the Story

Always witty we enjoy your posts.  :rofl2: :bump:
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2015, 11:41:43 AM »
Quote from: Javo on September 23, 2015, 09:12:02 AM
Accoording the USPS site my parcel is delivered as well...but..no parcel here, not even a note.
I tried to email USPS, but I have to fill in my address...no problem you think...I don't have an american adress, and from that point on I can't get any further.

So I decided to mail the Jewel Store...since we're such good friends I hope they can see what's happened.

In my dealings with the USPS and overseas mailing, I noticed that often they show "Delivered" when parcel reaches Point of Debarkation (US side) and/or Point of Embarkation (overseas), so "Delivered is a relative term.  :confused:

Wishing you good luck.  ;)
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2015, 02:26:28 PM »
Quote from: Donna Sue on September 23, 2015, 02:48:07 AM
FINALLY GOT MY BOOK!  :woot:
:thomdance:

Quote from: Donna Sue on September 23, 2015, 02:48:07 AM
Wow. Some of this stuff is blowing me away. Poor Jewel.  :(
Some of that early stuff was hard to read, but fascinating.

Quote from: Garf on September 23, 2015, 06:49:05 AM
Between being a slow ass reader and hardly getting any time to myself, it's gonna take me forever to read this.
That's exactly where I was a couple days ago, but I found some time yesterday and hammered my way through the second half. Gotta admit though, my eyes kind of glazed over and I skimmed through some of the self-help stuff at the end. Just the facts for me.

Does that make me a bad fan? :fallen:
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2015, 02:27:39 PM »
I skimmed the self-help stuff, too, so we're bad fans together.  I imagine we'll get plenty of it when the jewelneverbroken.com site gets launched.
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2015, 02:32:42 PM »
Outlaws!

The way my mind works is so many light-years away from the way Jewel's does, I can't even comprehend some of her concepts.
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2015, 02:44:35 PM »
Anyway...

In the book, (maybe I should spoiler this)
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in the last paragraph of chapter 27 when she's talking about planned baby sex and stress, it seems to end really abruptly to me. You can almost see the editing. I think she wrote a lot of stuff here, and then thought better of it and replaced it with "There are many stories here, but suffice it to say that once again my need for love and for a fantasy outpaced my ability to see the truth."


The result is very cryptic.


Hehe. I guess placing a quote inside a spoiler broke the system. Changed it.
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #68 on: September 23, 2015, 02:57:33 PM »
Best to keep details of the relationship hush-hush until the divorce is final, which can take years and years and years. 
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #69 on: September 23, 2015, 03:04:25 PM »
Also: In chapter 22, in the section that goes from meeting Kevyn Aucoin through the MTV Video Awards to the Tupac revelation, man, I felt her terror on the red carpet. I don't know if that's due to good writing or just the way I felt at the time, but it hit me.

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I wasn't aware of the way (or when) she met Virginia either. That was pretty cool.
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #70 on: September 23, 2015, 03:42:38 PM »
Quote from: Randy on September 23, 2015, 02:44:35 PM
Anyway...

In the book, (maybe I should spoiler this)
Spoiler: show
in the last paragraph of chapter 27 when she's talking about planned baby sex and stress, it seems to end really abruptly to me. You can almost see the editing. I think she wrote a lot of stuff here, and then thought better of it and replaced it with "There are many stories here, but suffice it to say that once again my need for love and for a fantasy outpaced my ability to see the truth."


The result is very cryptic.


Hehe. I guess placing a quote inside a spoiler broke the system. Changed it.

That happened a few places.  That's why you hire and editor.
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2015, 03:48:30 PM »
Some of the things I said there, I didn't say  /Yogi
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2015, 03:49:27 PM »
Quote from: Randy on September 23, 2015, 02:32:42 PM
Outlaws!

The way my mind works is so many light-years away from the way Jewel's does, I can't even comprehend some of her concepts.

Being a self-proclaimed new age fruit cake - I totally got why things went down the way they did.  We think the same way.  I thought it was actually pretty cool, but can see where it may not translate to mainstream well...especially if it's not your thing.  Spirituality vs religion, add in philosophy and art and yeah, Nedra is evil.  I'm surprised she hasn't grown hooves and horns yet.  I rather enjoyed it and:
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The chapter written to Kase had me balling.  It was so very heartfelt and protective.  I didn't find it contrived at all. 

Shockingly enough the Mrs is not a Jewel fan, and she has been reading (and enjoying the book).  Surely, Mercury is in retrograde. :P
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2015, 02:41:41 AM »
I really enjoyed the bits about psychology, I'm amazed she was so able to analyze (and help) herself so well from such a young age. There are processes one person only understands in therapy.
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2015, 07:41:13 AM »
I think I missed something...

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I feel like a guy, because I want to say - Chicks, I don't get 'em.  Didn't Jewel say, in some of the early book tour appearances (before it was out) that there was something about unrequited love?  Now, romance or romantic relationships are never a reason I read (or write).  But I had lots of time in the car yesterday and was listening to my Jewel playlist and was thinking about it all - cause, hours of traffic and all.  And I'm trying to figure, despite vague parts of the book - who was she referencing?  Sean Penn, the Swedish dude?  There's no mention of Poltz, so it can't be him.

So yeah, chicks.  i don't get 'em 
 

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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #75 on: September 24, 2015, 07:43:08 AM »
I think it's gotta be

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the sweedish dude.  It's gotta be. :lol:

But I do want to know what happened with Poltz...
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #76 on: September 24, 2015, 07:48:04 AM »
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That's what I thought.  In CDTD - she admits to skipping out on him.

The lack of Poltz was weird, but I guess it was already 400 pages, 10 1/2 hrs on cd - her editor probably figured we all knew the Poltz stories.  Still, his influence on her early songs is so obvious...and when her style changed and it was more of her own voice and style taking over. 
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #77 on: September 25, 2015, 07:44:28 AM »
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So it wasn't just me... she WAS vague about her relationships with these guys. I was hoping for more on her and Poltz too, since she didn't really talk about him much in CDTD. I loved the way some of her music was influenced by him. He seems to bring out the happy, silliness in her (probably because he's such a goofball himself). If you were a Jewel newb reading this book, however, you'd never even know they had a relationship.

The part about Nedra screaming at her... I didn't realize until I got to the very end of it that I was holding my breath. What a powerful story... like the light just went on and she realized she had been fooling herself this whole time to what her mother really was. Crazy. And very, very sad.  :cry: 


Quote from: Jessica on September 23, 2015, 02:27:39 PM
I skimmed the self-help stuff, too, so we're bad fans together.  I imagine we'll get plenty of it when the jewelneverbroken.com site gets launched.

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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #78 on: September 25, 2015, 06:18:39 PM »
A couple of songs that make more sense now after the book:

Goodbye Alice in Wonderland (obviously):


Becoming, which I've always loved but always wondered what the underlying reason was that she wrote it:


Love Is A Garden, which I always figured was about her brief break up with Ty, but you know, some things weren't quite as obvious. :)



Any other songs to add? :thinking:
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Re: Book discussion thread.
« Reply #79 on: September 25, 2015, 06:24:24 PM »
You lied.
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