Author Topic: New songs in the ASCAP catalog (Read 5927 times)

jewelwiki · « **on:** April 24, 2016, 11:57:47 AM »

There were a bunch of new Jewel songs added to her ASCAP catalog this weekend! Some of them are pretty old (e.g. 2 Find U), so I'm not sure if they are just cleaning up their catalog. They originally had "To Find You" in the catalog, so I'm not sure why they added 2 Find U as well. I don't know if all these new songs with Wynn Varble are from a recent songwriting session or an older one and they're finally getting cataloged?

Title	Writers	Notes
Echo of Me	Jewel Luke Laird
For a Good Time Call Me	Jewel Vicky McGehee Craig Wiseman	This was already cataloged...now it's a duplicate entry.
Grateful	Jewel Marv Green	Marv Green is co-writer on Stronger Woman and a few unreleased songs
It All Comes Down to This	Kara Dioguardi Jewel	There's another "It All Comes Down to This" that lists Guy Chambers along with Jewel & Kara...maybe they're re-using portions of the song that he didn't write?
It's Him	Jewel Wynn Varble
Love Without the Pain	Jewel Wynn Varble
Missing You Missing Me	Jewel Wynn Varble
Somethin' So Beautiful	Jewel David Lee Wynn Varble
U and Me	Guy Chambers Kara Dioguardi Jewel	Duplicate entry
Water is Wide (Traditional)	Jewel Sarah McLachlan Amy Ray Emily Saliers	Duplicate entry
2 Find U	Jewel Lester Mendez	Now entered with 0304 spelling

Jessica · « **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2016, 07:48:34 AM »

Who's Wynn Varble? I wonder what those songs sound like.

Good find, Robby!

jewelwiki · « **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2016, 09:01:03 AM »

She's performed with him a handful of times in the past (or maybe once?).

He's a co-writer for "Anyone But You"...the rest are unreleased tracks.

Jessica · « **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2016, 09:23:13 AM »

I don't care much for that song, so those others can stay in the archive.

jewelwiki · « **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:05:31 AM »

What? That's one of my favorites from Perfectly Clear!

Mr. Joe · « **Reply #5 on:** April 25, 2016, 09:33:21 PM »

Quote from: jewelwiki on April 25, 2016, 10:05:31 AM

What? That's one of my favorites from Perfectly Clear!

I agree Robby, I love Jewel doing country.

Jessica · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2016, 06:47:11 AM »

What's this??

Invalid Tweet ID
How did he find it I wonder?

Yes. No correlation with abandoned 1996 album though. Written with Rick in Feb 2005. Demoed 3/21/05. Published 5/9/05 @jeweljk @gmcoleman94
— Alan Bershaw (@MrBBMrBB) August 23, 2016

EDIT: Found a bigger chunk of it! - http://www.spiritmusicgroup.com/Songs/Library/First-Last-Time

Jessica · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2016, 06:59:50 AM »

Here's another one called Unbroken: http://www.spiritmusicgroup.com/Songs/Library/Unbroken

Jessica · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:02:17 AM »

And another called Closer Behind: http://www.spiritmusicgroup.com/Songs/Library/Closer-Behind-(1)

Jessica · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:03:51 AM »

Second Version of the same song, Closer Behind: http://www.spiritmusicgroup.com/Songs/Library/Closer-Behind

Jessica · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:10:27 AM »

A little instrumental demo of Standing Still!! http://www.spiritmusicgroup.com/Songs/Library/Standing-Still-(demo)-INST

NathanLevi · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:39:44 AM »

Closer behind reminds me of Katy Perry's last friday night lol and unbroken is so beautiful!!!

Why jewel doesn't release an album of demos and b-sides? Id pay good money for a nice chunk of songs. So many artist release these kinds of albums. I got a 4 disc set of one that Tori Amos released and it was awesome.

Jessica · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:44:38 AM »

I would like that, too! Ben Folds had a great one of these as well and it was amazing!

Smashing Pumpkins did a re-release of their old albums with second discs full of rare tracks - that would be awesome as well!

NathanLevi · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:49:25 AM »

Agreed! Think about it..if she released an album like that she wouldn't even need to tour for it and shed be making money from it also. She probably has no plans on these kinds of songs cause she doesn't remember them lol

Jessica · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:51:54 AM »

I'm surprised she makes it through a show sometimes

A lot of these aren't written by Jewel, so there's probably too much red tape, whereas someone like Amos or Folds write all of their own songs exclusively. That's probably the hurdle. These songs above aren't Jewel songs - she's just singing them.

NathanLevi · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:04:41 AM »

Womp womp womp 😔
I guess theres a lot more songs that were sent to Jewel to record than we thought. Very few songs that someone else writes make it to a jewel album. I can only think of 3 off the top of my head. Pretty faced fool, bad as it gets and till if feels like cheating. Bummer! But im sure theres a ton of demos and b-sides of her own that will never see the light of day.

Jessica · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:22:16 AM »

I found two more songs I've never heard of!

One's called Second Skin and the other's called Love Will Come To You! I found the full tracks of these ones after I signed up for a log in at Warner Chappell

Love will come to you: http://www.warnerchappell.com/song-details/WW%20001144722%2000/25928a4c-0d00-0274-e053-969e2a0a0145

Second Skin: http://www.warnerchappell.com/song-details/WW%20001144724%2000/25928a4c-0d03-0274-e053-969e2a0a0145

If you click on "masters" it will bring an MP3 of the song up. The site will only play a clip, but if you have Download Helper, it'll grab the whole song!!

NathanLevi · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:32:31 AM »

You're so awesome Jessica!!! i will say this..reading the titles of these songs and then hearing them they never sound like what im imagining lol

Jessica · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:35:25 AM »

Yeah, Second Skin is pretty rocky! Definitely not what I expected!

Jewel doesn't have the rights to either of those songs, the website says

EDIT: at least that's what I think the "Control: N" means

Jessica · « **Reply #19 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:37:58 AM »

I am so stoked for Robby to come through and see this - time to update the wiki!

I'd do it myself, but I'm nervous about the mucking up the site's transition!

Simon · « **Reply #20 on:** August 23, 2016, 09:50:45 AM »

Thanks for the links Jessica, am listening now! Any idea what year these may have been recorded?

Love Will Come To You is great!

Jessica · « **Reply #21 on:** August 23, 2016, 09:52:29 AM »

Love Will Come to You and Second Skin are both listed as coming from the year 2000 - This Way era!

Javo · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2016, 11:04:11 AM »

Quote from: Jessica on August 23, 2016, 07:02:17 AM

And another called Closer Behind: http://www.spiritmusicgroup.com/Songs/Library/Closer-Behind-(1)

There is another jewel-song that really comes to mind when I hear this: Fragile heart (just music style at some points, refrain)

Javo · « **Reply #23 on:** August 23, 2016, 11:13:01 AM »

Really nice, can't believe people find all this.

Jessica · « **Reply #24 on:** August 23, 2016, 11:18:00 AM »

I can't believe I never found those other two until now. Embarrassing!

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #25 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:33:57 PM »

Quote from: Jessica on August 23, 2016, 07:51:54 AM

A lot of these aren't written by Jewel, so there's probably too much red tape, whereas someone like Amos or Folds write all of their own songs exclusively. That's probably the hurdle. These songs above aren't Jewel songs - she's just singing them.

Nah, they were written by Jewel, just not exclusively Jewel.

Rick Nowels has co-written a few of her songs so he's not a new name. The other two songs, though? I don't know who those writers are. Using my google powers I see that Marv Green co-wrote Stronger Woman and Jeffrey Stevens is another country singer, so I wonder if Love Will Come To You was recorded for Perfectly Clear. Second Skin actually sounds like it might fit on Goodbye Alice in Wonderland so it didn't surprise me that the co-writers on that song had more of a rock background (Stan Lynch was the drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers).

Oh! I just found this! From an old copy of Billboard magazine Sep 2, 2000.

https://books.google.com/books?id=fBEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=Jewel&source=bl&ots=LPJjbk9LcN&sig=_bj6YqbzgB5oULEByUZDa16NJ6I&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirmeyDwdjOAhVD8CYKHaBED0kQ6AEIRjAK#v=onepage&q=Jewel&f=false

So I'm guessing that's when Love Will Come To You and Second Skin were written.

jewelwiki · « **Reply #26 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:40:35 PM »

Wow! It's like Christmas in August! I'm so excited to listen to all of these as I pack for a trip tonight!

The renovation on the wiki has taken a backseat lately. Sorry, y'all!

You can add it to the new wiki at http://www.jewelwiki.com/w/ or the old one. I won't lose it in the transition. If you want to give it a try, copy the formatting from another song and it should be good.

The new one uses a lot of embedded templates for lyrics, etc. When you're editing a page, the bottom should allow you to click and see the templates in use so you can see how to edit them. Maybe the old one is easier for now...play around, you won't muck it up!

Jessica · « **Reply #27 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:52:56 PM »

I looked at the new Wiki to give it a shot and it said I don't have permission.

Sorry, homie.

Good info, Tracy! Nice to see at least WCM knows what year their songs came from - unlike Spirit Music!

jewelwiki · « **Reply #28 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:57:37 PM »

I made it so you have to register for the new wiki to stop the spam. Try registering and see if that works?

jewelwiki · « **Reply #29 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:58:41 PM »

At the top, click Wiki, then under Personal click create an account

Jessica · « **Reply #30 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:10:19 PM »

Bah, now it says I have to verify with my email and I didn't bank on that

Jessica · « **Reply #31 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:11:26 PM »

Quote from: Javo on August 23, 2016, 11:04:11 AM

Quote from: Jessica on August 23, 2016, 07:02:17 AM
And another called Closer Behind: http://www.spiritmusicgroup.com/Songs/Library/Closer-Behind-(1)

There is another jewel-song that really comes to mind when I hear this: Fragile heart (just music style at some points, refrain)

This one sounds almost EXACTLY like that Home To Me song Jewel wrote for that charity using that other girl's lyrics.

Randy · « **Reply #32 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:13:28 PM »

Just when you start thinking not much is going on...

This is a cool little batch of finds! And I was mentally sort of going in the same direction Tracy did...I think all those songs [EDIT: Well, not all of them- there are some from the 2 country albums and some relatively new ones and also some I never heard of] on the Warner-Chappel site originated from that writers' camp in 2000, especially now that I see the names in the picture caption also show up as co-writers.

Serve the Ego and Shadows Play were written there, too, right?

Georgiegirl · « **Reply #33 on:** August 24, 2016, 12:33:35 PM »

I agree honey learning more and more from you ever day.Thank- you, love you.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #34 on:** August 28, 2016, 05:35:12 PM »

Quote from: Randy on August 23, 2016, 04:13:28 PM

Serve the Ego and Shadows Play were written there, too, right?

They were.

I was actually just listening to this Shadows Play demo and it suddenly clicked in my head that, hey, this was probably recorded from that Summer camp writing session! The album info on my phone has always said "WCM Summer Camp Sampler 2000" and it's perplexed me about what the heck that was. I guess now we know.

Frag · « **Reply #35 on:** August 30, 2016, 01:48:10 PM »

Quote from: jewelwiki on April 25, 2016, 10:05:31 AM

favorites from Perfectly Clear!

This phrase does not compute.

fabiojj · « **Reply #36 on:** October 21, 2016, 08:07:40 AM »

Hello guys!

Robbie Williams new album, Heavy Entertainment Show, to be released November 4th, will contain one song Jewel co-wrote:

Tracklist:

1. HEAVY ENTERTAINMENT SHOW
2. PARTY LIKE A RUSSIAN
3. MIXED SIGNALS
4. LOVE MY LIFE
5. MOTHERF...ER
6. BRUCE LEE
7. SENSITIVE
8. DAVID’S SONG
9. PRETTY WOMAN
10. HOTEL CRAZY (FEATURING RUFUS WAINWRIGHT)
11. SENSATIONAL

DAVID'S SONG

CHAMBERS GUY ANTONY   PRS   121746497
DIOGUARDI KARA ELIZABETH   BMI   186947608
KILCHER JEWEL   ASCAP   337401974
WILLIAMS ROBERT PETER   PRS   162537572

Jessica · « **Reply #37 on:** October 21, 2016, 08:10:33 AM »

wow - nice, dude! Great find!

ebuchszer · « **Reply #38 on:** October 26, 2016, 12:35:07 PM »

Mr. Joe · « **Reply #39 on:** August 13, 2017, 10:50:52 PM »

Quote from: Angel Eyes on August 28, 2016, 05:35:12 PM

Quote from: Randy on August 23, 2016, 04:13:28 PM

Serve the Ego and Shadows Play were written there, too, right?

They were. I was actually just listening to this Shadows Play demo and it suddenly clicked in my head that, hey, this was probably recorded from that Summer camp writing session! The album info on my phone has always said "WCM Summer Camp Sampler 2000" and it's perplexed me about what the heck that was. I guess now we know.

Background guitar and accompaniment remind me of Sergio Mendez or Herb Alpert from mid'60's

kind of tropical and moody, Jewel can sing anything.

KateCox · « **Reply #40 on:** August 14, 2017, 12:34:18 PM »

Quote from: Angel Eyes on August 28, 2016, 05:35:12 PM

Quote from: Randy on August 23, 2016, 04:13:28 PM

Serve the Ego and Shadows Play were written there, too, right?

They were. I was actually just listening to this Shadows Play demo and it suddenly clicked in my head that, hey, this was probably recorded from that Summer camp writing session! The album info on my phone has always said "WCM Summer Camp Sampler 2000" and it's perplexed me about what the heck that was. I guess now we know.

ELEVATOR MUSIC!!! LOL

keica · « **Reply #41 on:** May 18, 2018, 04:54:10 AM »

I can't believe I missed all these songs for so long! Thank you so much for sharing

moon_over_vienna · « **Reply #42 on:** January 14, 2019, 06:14:33 AM »

You guys are amazing for finding all this stuff! Sadly most of the songs are deleted by now i guess? I only can hear the Standing Still-demo (which is very nice) from the links.
Shadows Play is nice too, i can imagine it very good on this way with a different production like serve the ego or i walk away.